Friday, 22 July 2016

Thomas and Harriet's Children (8): Stanley James Edgar

Stanley James Edgar was born in Acton, Suffolk on March 3, 1883. According to one source, his father Thomas was working at nearby Great Waldingfield and Stanley was baptised there on April 8.[1] 

St. Lawrence church, Great Waldingfield, Suffolk - geograph.org.uk - 151418.jpg
St. Lawrence Church, Great Waldingfield
By Robert Edwards, CC BY-SA 2.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=6818764

Map from Acton, UK to Great Waldingfield, UK

One of his military records (see below) tells us while in the army he was or claimed to be Anglican - this is hardly surprising as his father was a Church warden in at least two of the places he lived.

In 1891 Stanley, a 'scholar' aged 8, he was living at home with his parents and 5 of his siblings. 'Home' was now Great Bealings - his parents had fallen on hard times and were forced to move around in search of secure employment.

In 1901, aged 18 and living with his parents at Stapleford Abotts, he was working as a postman.

In 1911, still single, he's one of two boarders with the Hollier family of Low Leyton (after 1921 Leyton), in Essex.

Map from Stapleford Abbotts Golf Club, Horsemanside, Tysea Hill, Stapleford Abbotts, Romford RM4 1JU, United Kingdom to Leyton, London, UK

Mr Hollier's name and details have been crossed out so the house seems to be headed by his wife. Stanley is now a grocer, and he's described as a 'worker' so he's employed by someone else. This was the job he'd be doing for at least the next 14 years, apart from a short period of military service, although his appearance in trade directories from 1912 onward suggests he ran his own shop after marriage..

That happened later in 1911: his marriage was registered in Ongar in the last quarter of that year. His wife was Ethel Groves, who was born on December 1, 1887.[2] The wedding took place on December 26 in the parish church at Lambourne in Essex.[3] 

Lambourne Parish Church - geograph.org.uk - 91262.jpg
The Church of St Mary and All saints, Lambourne: By John Winfield, CC BY-SA 2.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=8107759


Map of Lambourne

Lambourne is 4.5 miles south of Epping

The same Military Record from 1917 record tells us that Ethel was living at 1 Henniker Gardens in East Ham, which was their family home from 1912 at the latest. In that year the couple had one child registered in West Ham in 1914.[4] 

Map of 1 Henniker Gardens, London E6

Stanley is in Kelly's Directory for 1912, 1914 and 1917 as a grocer and living in Henniker Gardens so it's almost certain that this was what he was doing from 1912 until he was conscripted in 1917. The 'Report' made on his conscription into the army tells us that he was 35 years old at the time of his entrance into the Royal Garrison Artillery in June 1917.

Stanley must have been called up under the Military Service Act which took effect from March 2, 1916 and was extended to married men like him in May of that year. Luckily all of his records seem to have survived, and the following information is put together from various documents.

He was accepted into the RGA on June 5, 1917 - June 2 was already printed and is given in other documents but the '2' has been crossed out and '5' written in. The same thing's happened with the place of his acceptance: it was 'Stratford, London, E.' but that's been crossed out and someone's written in 'Derby'. Derby was the location of the RGA's Depot (Heavy and Siege)[5] and I think it's clear what happened: Stanley presented himself at his local recruiting centre on June 2, when he, as another documents tells us, was 'called up for service', and a couple of days later he was given a stamped form and put on a train to Derby - another document tells us he arrived on July 4 - where he was processed into the RGA 3 days later.[6]  His service was to be 'for the duration' of the war. As we shall see, it went rather beyond that.

Stanley's rank was Gunner - the equivalent of Private - and his regimental number was 164273. His papers make it clear he was 'joining' and was 'accepted' into the Regiment, not 'enrolling' and being 'enrolled'. I think they were making a distinction between volunteers and conscripts. What he told the interviewer doesn't surprise us: he had not been in the forces before, he was a shopkeeper - grocery and provisions to be precise.

But there is a mystery as to his medical classification: it's given on his joining form as 'B1. one'. - I think that's B1 with the 'one' added for clarity. This is what the 'B' category and the sub-category 'B1' meant after new guidelines were issued on July 1, 1916:

B Free from serious organic diseases, able to stand service on lines of communication in France, or in garrisons in the tropics.
Subcategories:
B1 Able to march 5 miles, see to shoot with glasses, and hear well.[7]

But a later form gives his classification as 'A' and another even states that it was 'A1' when he joined at Derby. This is what the 'A' classifications meant:

A able to march, see to shoot, hear well and stand active service conditions
A1 fit for dispatching overseas, as regards physical and mental health and training.

Some other details in his army records make me think 'B1' is more likely, perhaps with a later re-classification  as the army's losses mounted and more men were needed for France. In the category 'Slight defects not sufficient to cause rejection' we learn that Stanley had flat feet - which were also 'enlarged' and joint big toes. In addition his 'Vision' was 6/9 in both eyes - this is currently the minimum standard needed for a driving licence (so-called 2-20 vision is 6/6). His weight at 160 lbs is a little heavy for a man of 5 ft. 7.5 inches - if he were 5' 8" his recommended range now would be 131-164 pounds, ideally somewhere in the middle.

But in other ways he does seem in reasonable shape. His 'Physical Development' is described as 'good'. His girth when fully expanded was 36 inches and the range of his chest expansion was 3 inches - average for his age and sex today would be just over 2.5 inches. He'd been vaccinated in infancy and this had been kept up - he had four vaccination marks on his right arm and one on his left - I wonderif that means he was left-handed? There were no marks indicating congenital peculiarities or previous disease.

While I'm on the subject of Stanley's health, here's a note in another document as to something dental happening on 15, October 1917 relating to 8 upper and 7 lower teeth. Unfortunately, I can't read the crucial word, but I think it relates to a denture - perhaps on that date one with those specifications was made, requested, measured for, lost....?

 Stanley's Medical Record seems to be stamped July 10, but the examination can't have taken place then as it's noted that it was held at Stratford, so it probably occurred on June 2 or 3rd before he was sent up to Derby. If the stamp really is July 10 (and it's not completely clear to me that this is the case) he was a long way north of London.

On June 30 Stanley was assigned to the RGA's Outer Defences on the island of Inchkeith, the key fortress in the defence of the Forth.[8] He stayed in what was probably a relatively easy posting for about ten months.

Inchkeith is located in Fife
The Firth of Forth, Scotland: Wikipedia: Courtesy of User Nilfranion

He was sent to Catterick in Yorkshire to join  the Second Siege Artillery Reserve Brigade on April 22, 1918. This was probably for some more training before he actually got involved in the fighting. On May 28 he left Catterick and he disembarked in France on May 30. There's an entry on one document: 249 sp or sg( ?) 17.6.18. This might mean indicate a transfer to the 249 Siege Battery on June 17, but if so this was soon changed, because on June 21 he joined the 188 Siege Battery which had been in France since October 1916. The note on his record for this move says 'From Base' - I don't know exactly what this means. Another little mystery in this document is: 'Granted war pay at P'(rest illegible)

His post-war medal record is marked 'base dtls'. This suggests that in spite of his rank as 'gunner' he might or might not have had anything to do with the artillery guns themselves:

Base details would typically include clerks who dealt with admin and looked after effects left at the base and possibly battle casualty replacements.[9]

The Armistice of November 11, 1918 brought the fighting to an end, but the business of de-mobilising the huge British army led to its own problems; the initial policy of first releasing those with important jobs to go amounted to 'last in, first out' and anger at this contributed to a number of mutinies, which led to a change of tack. In the end, it was the more recent conscripts who had to wait.[10]

On February 10, December , 1919 he was examined in France and signed a form stating he did not claim to be suffering from a disability as  result of his service. On February 15, 1919 he was sent to Shorncliffe Dispersal Centre close to Folkestone to prepare for release. On February 17, 1919 he was given his 'Protection Certificate and Certificate of Identity' which was needed to help smooth his way in civilian life. We also learn  that Stanley had no 'specialist military qualification'.

He got 28 days leave on 27 February, 1919 and it was during that period that his service in the army official ended. He was finally demobilised March 16, 1919 at Dover, although he was placed in the Class Z Reserve:

Soldiers who were being demobilised, particularly those who had agreed to serve “for the duration”, were at first posted to Class Z. They returned to civilian life but with an obligation to return if called upon. The Z Reserve was abolished on 31 March 1920.[11]

In fact, his form states 'Z.9'. but I don't know what the '9' means. His 'Protection' certificate told him where he'd have to re-join in case of an 'emergency' - Shoreham in Sussex, where the RGA had  a camp. 

Stanley records tell us he was awarded the Victory and/or British War  Medals for his service. Online accounts differ as to the meaning of these medals, but they were both basically awarded to people who entered an active theatre of war not for particular deeds of courage. My guess is Stanley got both.

After his demobilisation, Stanley took up his old life.  He and Ethel had a son in late 1921 (name of living person withheld) and he's back in Kelly's Directory for 1922 and 1925 as a grocer, still of 1, Henniker Gardens, East Ham.

Stanley's nephew Wilfred 'Bay' Edgar states:

Stanley...knocked about in the city possibly becoming a jobber.

'Jobbers' before the 1986 reorganisation of the Stock Exchange acted as the theoretical  owners of the shares sold by stockbrokers and theoretical source of the shares they purchased. It's possible that Stanley did this after 1925 or part-time while he was a grocer, but I have another theory. This is what one source tells us about 'jobbers':

The term "jobber" is also used to describe a small-scale wholesaler or middleman in the retail goods trade.[12]

So I think Stanley, as well perhaps as having his own shop, was a 'jobbing grocer' who supplied produce to retail outlets.

But there is evidence that at some point he left both east London and the grocery business.. His son, born in 1921, was interviewed in a local paper about his WW11 experiences and he told the reporter he'd grown up on a  poultry farm near Epping. Stanley's parents and some of his siblings lived in Theydon Garnon on the outskirts of Epping and at some point they owned or rented a farm - but the memories of those of us who visited in the late 1950s include hay bales and bees not chickens. Perhaps Stanley had  a farm of his own nearby.

Stanley's death was registered in the Chelmsford District, June 1969, aged 86. Chelmsford is about 18 miles from Epping so he might have retired to that area. Ethel died in 1995 in the Ipswich District. She was 108.[13]



[3] 'Descriptive Report on Joining' (in a packet headed New Soldier's Record), 1917.
[4] Name of possibly living person withheld - in order to post details of a person on this blog I need to have seen 1) a death certificate or other plausible evidence of decease or 2) evidence of a birth more than 110 years before the present - for the necessity of this cautious policy consider the case of Ethel Groves/Edgar below! 
[6] However, another document seems to suggest he was accepted at Derby on July 2. I think this was either a mistake or refers to some further development on that date.
[10] http://www.1914-1918.net/demobilisation.htm
[12] http://www.investopedia.com/terms/j/jobber.asp

















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